Archive for November 19th, 2008
The Shack is EVIL!
Written by Joel Klampert on November 19, 2008 – 12:11 PM -Have you heard of the book, The Shack? If you haven’t then please come out form under that rock.
I while back I wanted to see what all of the talk about it was so I bought the book, devoured it, and then reviewed it on the blog. I loved it.
Then I started to see all of the negative attention on the net. Mark Driscoll, who I love, describes the book as heretical and that it promotes modalism. Of course there are tons more online who preach against the book as well calling it evil and a non biblical representation of the trinity.
This past weekend my church did a mens retreat with another church form maine. We gave everybody in the groups a copy of the book, let them know it was fiction, it was not theology and more like a parable. They were told to read it and we would discuss it on the retreat.
I bet from the guys who claim it’s evil they would be screaming right now
“Noooooo. you are going to be teaching your men wrong doctrine….”
Well most read it and tore through the book and then God tore through them.
In our discussions we instructed our men to not get hung up on the theology because it is more an allegory and not a theological book. They were to see if they felt like some of the story was their own.
I was floored with what happened.
Did our guys change their minds theologically?
Did our men think God was a big black woman?
Did they hink the Holy spirit was an asian woman?
No…No….and No….
So what did happen?
Freedom from anger
Freedom from past
freedom from Father issues
bigger view of God
An understanding that God cares.
Our men came face to face with a God that loves them and every one of them, one way or another, walked away understanding that God is bigger than they thought.
Is the Shack Evil? I don’t really care actually, but I am really glad that a simple story made God more real to some hurting and angry men.
Tags: CEC, CECWorship, doctrine, evil, he shack, joel klampert, klampert, Religion, theology, willaim p young
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Is youth “worship” too noisy?
Written by Joel Klampert on November 19, 2008 – 8:44 AM -Here is a video from Life in Student ministry blog. If you have not been there he was some great youth ministry resources and thoughts.
Tags: CEC, CECWorship, joel klampert, klampert, life in student ministry, Religion, Youth Ministry
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I’d love to see a singing rock
Written by Joel Klampert on November 19, 2008 – 8:19 AM -The bible says in Luke 19:40
“…If they kept quiet, the stones would do it for them, shouting praise.”
I love that verse. Jesus is basically saying the entire universe will shout it’s praises if we don’t. Worship is everywhere.
I was thinking about it the other day though. Man wouldn’t it be cool if for one day we all stopped praising and then we could see the rocks actually sing. That would be sweet!
Tags: CEC, CECWorship, joel klampert, klampert, lifepath church, Religion
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Kari Jobe: Live video Chat
Written by Joel Klampert on November 19, 2008 – 7:48 AM -Ok so you would have to be a crack head to not love Kari Jobe (worship leader at gateway church). Her solo songs on the Gateway CD’s and wok on Klaus’ CD’s have but nohing hort of brilliant and God breathed.
Turns out she has a CD coming out very soon and I am beyond stoked to get it. She has a single you can hear on her myspace and it will be available on itunes next week, 11.25.08.

So here is the announcment of Kari chatting live and taking questions: Read more »
Tags: CEC, CECWorship, Gateway Worship, joel klampert, Kari Jobe, klampert, klaus, live hat
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